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The Submariner’s Oldest Debate, Settled
Since 1969 (when the Ref. 1680 added a date window), the Submariner community has been split: Date or No-Date? It’s the most discussed, most polarizing, and most personal choice in Rolex buying. Here’s the definitive comparison — and a framework for deciding.
Everything That’s Different
| Spec | Date (126610LN) | No-Date (124060) |
|---|---|---|
| Date Window | Yes (3 o’clock + Cyclops) | No |
| Crystal | Sapphire + Cyclops (dome at 3) | Sapphire (clean, flat) |
| Movement | Cal. 3235 (with date module) | Cal. 3230 (no date module) |
| Thickness | 12.5mm | 11.9mm (0.6mm thinner) |
| Power Reserve | 70h | 70h (identical) |
| Dial | Asymmetric (date window at 3) | Symmetric (no interruption) |
| Retail | $10,250 | $9,100 |
| Secondary | $13,500-$14,500 | $12,000-$13,500 |
The Date Argument
- Practicality: You look at the date 5-10 times daily. Not having it means checking your phone.
- Cyclops: Love it or hate it, the Cyclops is the most recognizable single design element in watchmaking. It says “Rolex” louder than the crown logo.
- Resale: The Date version outsells the No-Date ~3:1, creating deeper secondary market liquidity.
- Tradition: The Submariner Date has been the “default” Sub since 1969 — 57 years of the date being the standard.
The No-Date Argument
- Symmetry: Without the date window, the dial is perfectly balanced — the 12-3-6-9 positions all have matching markers. It’s objectively more beautiful as a design object.
- Clean crystal: No Cyclops = uninterrupted sapphire dome. The watch profile is cleaner, sleeker, more modern.
- Thinner: 0.6mm less thickness. Marginal but perceptible — the No-Date sits flatter on wrist.
- Historical purity: The original 1953 Submariner had no date. The No-Date is the “correct” Sub — the date was a 1969 addition.
- $1,150 cheaper: Same movement platform, same materials, less complication = lower price. The best Rolex value in the Professional lineup.
The Decision Framework
- Buy the Date if: You use the date function daily, you love the Cyclops, you want maximum resale liquidity, or “Submariner Date” is what you picture when you think “Rolex.”
- Buy the No-Date if: You value dial symmetry, you prefer the clean crystal, you want the thinnest Sub, you appreciate historical purity, or you want to save $1,150.
The Third Option
Buy BOTH — one genuine, one from DR.WATCH. Total for one authentic + one superclone: ~$9,400-$10,550. Two Submariner experiences covering every situation.
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